I visited the Neurosurgeon yesterday, he gave the right answers and MsBubba approved of both he and his answers so I'm booked to be fixed on the 11th. Which brings to mind the Far Side cartoon of the dog in a car going to the Vet to be "tutored".
It will be day surgery with a couple of bandaid sized incisions and a one to six week recovery period. Now I'm like a kid waiting on Christmas, time can't pass fast enough.
Work is crazy right now....So what else is new....It is busy season and one instructor just went down to a horse related injury, so not much wood working between now and the 11th. At best shop organizing and clean up, though I do have the stock sized and ready to cut the joinery for a couple of small boxes.
I just received C.S.'s The Anarchist's Design Book. I haven't had the time to browse through it but when I came home from work yesterday MsBubba had left it open on the Aumbry chapter. Subtle is not her long suit.
ken
Saturday, September 30, 2017
Thursday, September 28, 2017
Changed Sharpening Bench
A bittersweet moment in the shop. Yesterday for the first time since I first started working wood my small bench is no longer in the shop. I'm not sure what will be done with it, could be a table for MsBubba's studio, or maybe convert it into another bar counter for the back garden, even put out front for a new life with someone else. Whatever it has been replaced with the traveling work bench sans leg vise.
The sharpening bench ne travel bench has a little more real estate to work with with about the same footprint, It should be a slight improvement....Just enough for a blog post but not much more :-).
BTW, I've converted all my stones to using water with a touch of soap as a lubricant. With the exception of the "India" stones they all seem happy. This way I can grab any stone and use it without worrying about oil contamination of my JNATs or man made water stones.
I will start a new travel bench build soon.
ken
The sharpening bench ne travel bench has a little more real estate to work with with about the same footprint, It should be a slight improvement....Just enough for a blog post but not much more :-).
BTW, I've converted all my stones to using water with a touch of soap as a lubricant. With the exception of the "India" stones they all seem happy. This way I can grab any stone and use it without worrying about oil contamination of my JNATs or man made water stones.
ken
Friday, September 22, 2017
Home Again Home Again
It was a good vacation, not too many squawks on the motorhome, the WX in Northern CA. was perfect with temps in the 60F to mid 70F range and the only rain was as we were leaving Ft. Bragg. It couldn't have been better except for the fires and smoke in Oregon keeping us in North CA.
The portable bench worked well and I had almost all the tools needed, not bad for a proof of concept trial.
Waiting for me at the local USPS office was a box of Boxwood handled Marple chisels, most were firmers. I'm missing a 5/8" and a 3/4" for a full set. The chisels are in good shape but.....damn that but, the UK sellers sure do like their belt sanders to make the chisels pretty for selling. I spent almost an hour on the back of the 1" chisel last night and I still have some more to go before it is flat. I'd pay twice as much if they would forget the dressing up for the sell.
Anyway here is a photo of the Marple chisels on hand. Now to find some where to keep 'em. For now the only answer is some of the little used chisels will have to go in a box or drawer and the Marple chisels will take their place in the back of bench chisel till.
The portable bench worked well and I had almost all the tools needed, not bad for a proof of concept trial.
Waiting for me at the local USPS office was a box of Boxwood handled Marple chisels, most were firmers. I'm missing a 5/8" and a 3/4" for a full set. The chisels are in good shape but.....damn that but, the UK sellers sure do like their belt sanders to make the chisels pretty for selling. I spent almost an hour on the back of the 1" chisel last night and I still have some more to go before it is flat. I'd pay twice as much if they would forget the dressing up for the sell.
Anyway here is a photo of the Marple chisels on hand. Now to find some where to keep 'em. For now the only answer is some of the little used chisels will have to go in a box or drawer and the Marple chisels will take their place in the back of bench chisel till.
I would like to end up with a full set of Marple's firmer and beveled edge chisels and a selected set of their paring chisels but I'm not sure I have the patience for the chase.
I've an appointment with a Neurosurgeon on the 28th. to see about fixing my back. I had plans to wait until after the first of the year but with the way things are going I expect I will take the first open time. Whisky and pain pills are no way to live life. Once again apologies for an OF's medical ramblings but this is my way of keeping track of what is happening in my life.
Monday, September 11, 2017
Blogger Did Some Strange Formatting
As the title says and working on a iPad I'm not going to try and correct.
ken
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Traveling Tools
Bob asked "What was in my tool box?" At the risk of boring everyone and spending all day one finger typing on a iPad here goes:
In no order other than kinda how they ended up on the bench:
Bench hook, made after arriving at the RV site.
2 doe's foot, one made at the RV site.
2 Kreg plastic dogs.
LN bench brush.
#5 with cambered iron.
Here is the list of tools in the tool box. I've used most of them or have plans to.
#3 with smoothing iron.
ECE Rebate plane.
LV Large Router Plane.
LV Med Router Plane.
LV Carcass saw, rip and crosscut.
LV Large Tenon saw, rip and crosscut*.
Plow Plane with ¼" cutter.
LN Small Rabbit/Block Plane.
LN Block Plane.
400 Atoma with stone holder**.
Med India in holder/box.
Hard Black Ark in holder/box.
Oiled hard leather strop.
Chisel Roll with ¼" to 1" A. Iles chisels, Wheel gauge, and LV Spokeshave.
6" Double Sq.
12" Combo Sq.
75mm Combo Sq.
LV Saddle Sq.
LV 1:8 Dovetail Marker.
2 Small Dividers.
150mm Steel rule.
5 Meter Tape.
Bird cage awl.
Screwdriver.
LV Winding Sticks/Straight Edge.
Small Box of Drill Bits.
¾" Foster Bit.
2 Marking Knifes.
Parrallel Guide Pin.
Pencils and Markers.
2 Holdfasts
2 Hammers***.
Glue.
Danish Oil.
6 Light F Clamps.
Calculater.
10X Lope.
Sanding Block.
¼" Wood Shim
26" Stanley Hardpoint Saw and 240mm Ryoba (not in photo).
Spirit Level.
Mortise Pin Gauge****
*May not keep in tool box for the next trip.
**Stone.Holder is not needed.
***one hammer is a RV hammer but will add a small Plane hammer.
****On order from Amazon, I can't believe I forgot to pack one.
In no order other than kinda how they ended up on the bench:
Bench hook, made after arriving at the RV site.
2 doe's foot, one made at the RV site.
2 Kreg plastic dogs.
LN bench brush.
#5 with cambered iron.
Here is the list of tools in the tool box. I've used most of them or have plans to.
#3 with smoothing iron.
ECE Rebate plane.
LV Large Router Plane.
LV Med Router Plane.
LV Carcass saw, rip and crosscut.
LV Large Tenon saw, rip and crosscut*.
Plow Plane with ¼" cutter.
LN Small Rabbit/Block Plane.
LN Block Plane.
400 Atoma with stone holder**.
Med India in holder/box.
Hard Black Ark in holder/box.
Oiled hard leather strop.
Chisel Roll with ¼" to 1" A. Iles chisels, Wheel gauge, and LV Spokeshave.
6" Double Sq.
12" Combo Sq.
75mm Combo Sq.
LV Saddle Sq.
LV 1:8 Dovetail Marker.
2 Small Dividers.
150mm Steel rule.
5 Meter Tape.
Bird cage awl.
Screwdriver.
LV Winding Sticks/Straight Edge.
Small Box of Drill Bits.
¾" Foster Bit.
2 Marking Knifes.
Parrallel Guide Pin.
Pencils and Markers.
2 Holdfasts
2 Hammers***.
Glue.
Danish Oil.
6 Light F Clamps.
Calculater.
10X Lope.
Sanding Block.
¼" Wood Shim
26" Stanley Hardpoint Saw and 240mm Ryoba (not in photo).
Spirit Level.
Mortise Pin Gauge****
*May not keep in tool box for the next trip.
**Stone.Holder is not needed.
***one hammer is a RV hammer but will add a small Plane hammer.
****On order from Amazon, I can't believe I forgot to pack one.
Sunday, September 10, 2017
Wood Working In A RV Park
While working, folks will drop by to see what I'm doing but really not many more than is normal for any activity outside the RV.
The work is back to the basics because of limited tool set and of course tools that should have been packed but missed the boat. Such as a marking gague, how that happened I haven't a clue. Amiazon of course came to the rescue....sort of. I'll cut to the chase as much as I can but being me some back story will be included.
I have a dislike of cheap knockoffs of someone's original design. If you developed the tool you should benefit from the sale of the tool. There is a cheap knockoff of the Titemark, looks the same, made of brass, and is about $60USD cheaper on Amazon. The problem is I can get next day delivery from Amazon, not from Titemark. So I let need override scrupules and ordered from Amazon.
There is good news and bad, I'm not sure which is which but.....It works about the same as a Titemark except it will not hold the setting unless you go all Conan on the lock screws. For some reason that pleases me.
ken
The work is back to the basics because of limited tool set and of course tools that should have been packed but missed the boat. Such as a marking gague, how that happened I haven't a clue. Amiazon of course came to the rescue....sort of. I'll cut to the chase as much as I can but being me some back story will be included.
I have a dislike of cheap knockoffs of someone's original design. If you developed the tool you should benefit from the sale of the tool. There is a cheap knockoff of the Titemark, looks the same, made of brass, and is about $60USD cheaper on Amazon. The problem is I can get next day delivery from Amazon, not from Titemark. So I let need override scrupules and ordered from Amazon.
There is good news and bad, I'm not sure which is which but.....It works about the same as a Titemark except it will not hold the setting unless you go all Conan on the lock screws. For some reason that pleases me.
ken
Saturday, September 09, 2017
Posting Photos From An iPad
Let's see if I've figured this or is technology still kicking my ass. A couple of photos of the RV and work bench.
Tuesday, September 05, 2017
On The Road
Or maybe that should be in the Casper Beach RV Park just South of Ft. Bragg CA.
I set the bench up last night and even sawed a dovetail or two along with sharpening some iron. The bench works like a champ.
I can't get the photos to load, they do over on SMC...photos to follow when I can.
Ken
I set the bench up last night and even sawed a dovetail or two along with sharpening some iron. The bench works like a champ.
I can't get the photos to load, they do over on SMC...photos to follow when I can.
Ken
Thursday, August 31, 2017
Marple Chisels
I have a bad jones for Marple firmer or bevel edge chisels with boxwood handles. The London pattern handles are nice as well but the simple straight Boxwood handles tickle my chisel G-spot.
Anyway I've been on a quest to find some in good shape and having some luck. Here is a small 1/4" firmer that showed up a few days ago pictured with some other bench chisels to give an idea of size and differences. From top to bottom are a Narex firmer, a modern 750, a Swiss Made Carpenters chisel, the Marple 1/4" firmer with Boxwood handle, and a LV PM v11. The first photo is of the chisels in profile view and the second in plan view.
Anyway I've been on a quest to find some in good shape and having some luck. Here is a small 1/4" firmer that showed up a few days ago pictured with some other bench chisels to give an idea of size and differences. From top to bottom are a Narex firmer, a modern 750, a Swiss Made Carpenters chisel, the Marple 1/4" firmer with Boxwood handle, and a LV PM v11. The first photo is of the chisels in profile view and the second in plan view.
I've several more Marple Boxwood handled chisels on the way, I expect they will arrive while we are in Oregon. They will be a nice 'welcome home'.
BTW, I get a shot in the spine tomorrow to relieve some of the pain. If it works as advertised it should take care of most of the pain until I'm back in Arizona...Surgery to follow.
We leave for Ft. Bragg, CA Saturday morning then after a couple of days in Ft. Bragg on to Brookings, OR for a few days and then working our way up the coast. The Motorhome has a full load of whisky and wine with food filling every cabinet, even a few beers in the Fridge, DVDs and Sat Dish ready and bench and tool box loaded. It should be a good trip.
ken
Monday, August 28, 2017
Portable Work Bench and Toolbox Loaded
The tool box isn't filled yet but I wanted to see how everything would fit. It does very well leaving good room to carry other needed "stuff".
On the PAX side bin I have the toolbox, the two legs, chop and parallel guide, and the vise backer board.
On the PAX side bin I have the toolbox, the two legs, chop and parallel guide, and the vise backer board.
The driver side bin has the slab, tool tray, stretchers, and in the wire basket wrapped in a towel is the screw.
I wasn't too worried about the fit because I measured carefully but you never know for sure until you fit it in. It fits :-).
Now to fill the tool box and we will be ready for Oregon.
Sunday, August 27, 2017
Japanese Style Tool Box
The last item to be finished of the portable workshop is the tool box. I finished cleaning it up last night, as much as it will be "cleaned up" it is a tool box don'tchknow, and put a coat of Danish Oil on the outside. Today comes the hard part....Deciding what tools to take. Too many and the tool box becomes unwieldy and too heavy to be "portable", Too few and either the "work arounds" take the pleasure out of making or even the project becomes dead in the water.
The list leads off with a couple of planes, I expect a #3 and a #5 with two cutter sets. A chisel roll with 1/4" through 1" plus at least one paring chisel. A couple or three saws, I have not decided between Japanese or Western, there are advantages to each. Marking stuff, squares, knifes, winding sticks, tapes, rules, and so on. Rabbet plane, plough plane, router plane....Anyway you get the idea. A couple of bench appliances like a bench hook also need to find a place as well.
Of course all this may be unnecessary because the bench and tool box may end up being a table and accessory to hold the whisky glass every evening .
Anyway here are a couple of photos of the tool box, click 'em to big 'em:
The list leads off with a couple of planes, I expect a #3 and a #5 with two cutter sets. A chisel roll with 1/4" through 1" plus at least one paring chisel. A couple or three saws, I have not decided between Japanese or Western, there are advantages to each. Marking stuff, squares, knifes, winding sticks, tapes, rules, and so on. Rabbet plane, plough plane, router plane....Anyway you get the idea. A couple of bench appliances like a bench hook also need to find a place as well.
Of course all this may be unnecessary because the bench and tool box may end up being a table and accessory to hold the whisky glass every evening .
Anyway here are a couple of photos of the tool box, click 'em to big 'em:
With lid open and tool tray:
See you guys on down the road,
ken
Saturday, August 26, 2017
First Project on The Travel Bench
I had to find space in the shop last night to give it a go before packing the bench away in the Motorhome. I can't tell you how impressed I am with the bench. Because the slab is only 50mm (2") it is different than my French/English bench with a 100mm (4") slab but not in a particularly bad way, it just has a different feel. I went through most bench operations while making the tool tray for the Japanese style tool box. It worked perfectly, rock solid and stable for all operations. I even enjoyed the leg vise, I've never been a leg vise fan but the wood screw makes it work well. Here are a couple of photos of how I left the bench last night. BTW, not a lot of open floor space in my overcrowded shop, this was about the best I could find.
The tool tray is waiting my picking up a piece of 1/4" plywood for the bottom so it can be glued up. Once that is done it will be time to put together a tool kit. I do not want too many tools but too few is just as bad. I figure a #5 and a #3, a chisel roll (1/4 through 1" and a paring chisel), a panel saw, two back saws (may replace the Western saws with a couple of Japanese saws), mallet, squares and marking tools, a set of bits, the cordless drill is already in the Motorhome's tool bin, winding sticks/straight edge, sprit level, two Ark stones and a strop, a couple of tapes and 6" rules, two hold fasts, on the fence are a plough plane, a block plane of some sort and a spokeshave.
I expect I will drill a couple of 3/4" holes in the hind leg for hold fast storage and then it is finished for now.
Here is the bench as I found it this morning:
One more from the other end:
I expect we will be on the road heading Northwest by Friday. Bridger may ride with us as far as ClearLake CA.
ken
Friday, August 25, 2017
Deep, Short, Narrow Mortises
I know, I know, I'm a little weird but I enjoy chopping mortises most of the time. I find a Zen like state.....tap, tap, lever, tap, tap, lever, repeat until everything that does not look like a mortise is removed. I can do the eight or sixteen needed for a table almost as fast as they can be done by machine. The one exception is a short, narrow, and deep mortise, like the one I had to chop for the vise garter last night. It was almost enough to make me buy a mortising machine. If there had been two of 'em I expect the AmEx would have been whipped out and I would be finding room in my overcrowded shop for another machine.
By the time I got to within about an inch of the promised land instead of chips all I could remove was dust or a stuck pigsticker. After an hour of whack, whack, try to lever and getting either dust or a stuck chisel I dug out the drill and drilled out most of the waste, paring out the rest to clean up. What a PITA.
By the time I got to within about an inch of the promised land instead of chips all I could remove was dust or a stuck pigsticker. After an hour of whack, whack, try to lever and getting either dust or a stuck chisel I dug out the drill and drilled out most of the waste, paring out the rest to clean up. What a PITA.
Moravian WorkBench Finished
Talk about working without a net. We leave for Oregon one week from today and all that is left to do is a little "clean up" on the bench and make a tool tray for the tool box. All done with a insane work schedule which BTW I'm working every day up to leaving. The joinery on the bench is not the prettiest I done but it is solid. My excuse is the whole thing was done in a rush....That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
I'll pick the Motorhome up from the RV shop this afternoon and then the moment of truth. Did my measurements work or did I have a brain fart and nothing fits in the proper storage bins. I do have a backup plan, I don't want to use, but if nothing fits in the bins I can carry it all in the Honda Fit Toad.
BTW, if you look behind the fan the tool box is standing on end.
See you guys on down the road,
ken
I'll pick the Motorhome up from the RV shop this afternoon and then the moment of truth. Did my measurements work or did I have a brain fart and nothing fits in the proper storage bins. I do have a backup plan, I don't want to use, but if nothing fits in the bins I can carry it all in the Honda Fit Toad.
BTW, if you look behind the fan the tool box is standing on end.
See you guys on down the road,
ken
Wednesday, August 23, 2017
Vise Screw Is Here
The Vise screw arrived late yesterday afternoon. We leave for Oregon in just a little over a week, things are getting down to the nut cutting with little time left. That is the bad news. The good is everything is falling into place and the work bench with tool box may make the trip.
The vise chop is almost finished, all that is left is shaping and glueing up the parallel guide. After that boring the screw hole in the vise backer, making the mortise for the parallel guide in the vise backer and mounting the nut. And the fat lady will sing something like "I want you to love me like you loved me when you really did".
No photographs because the camera battery is still DOA.
The tool box is finished other than a sliding tray.
Parts for the Motorhome are to be drop shipped by Friday....And he sticks the landing to cheers of the crowd. Like I have said many times it is better to be lucky than good.
Photos when I can,
ken
The vise chop is almost finished, all that is left is shaping and glueing up the parallel guide. After that boring the screw hole in the vise backer, making the mortise for the parallel guide in the vise backer and mounting the nut. And the fat lady will sing something like "I want you to love me like you loved me when you really did".
No photographs because the camera battery is still DOA.
The tool box is finished other than a sliding tray.
Parts for the Motorhome are to be drop shipped by Friday....And he sticks the landing to cheers of the crowd. Like I have said many times it is better to be lucky than good.
Photos when I can,
ken
Monday, August 21, 2017
Waiting On The Vise Screw
The vise screw is scheduled for delivery sometime tomorrow. While waiting for the screw I'm putting together a Japanese style tool box to transport the needed tools. That may make carrying around a work bench worthwhile or maybe not..
It is a simple build, I'm sure I'm making it more complex than needed but that is the Western way :-). I cheated and dug out and blew all the dust off the old biscuit joiner. BTW, it took a couple of minutes of butt scratching to remember how to use it. Finally figured it out and used it for the end butt joints. The cut nails should add a little to the strength but I suspect they will be more decorative than anything else.
I'll tongue and grove the bottom slats if time permits.
I have not decided on a sliding tray or not, right now I'm leaning toward yes.
Labor Day is barreling done on us and I have no days off before we leave for Oregon.
ken
It is a simple build, I'm sure I'm making it more complex than needed but that is the Western way :-). I cheated and dug out and blew all the dust off the old biscuit joiner. BTW, it took a couple of minutes of butt scratching to remember how to use it. Finally figured it out and used it for the end butt joints. The cut nails should add a little to the strength but I suspect they will be more decorative than anything else.
I'll tongue and grove the bottom slats if time permits.
I have not decided on a sliding tray or not, right now I'm leaning toward yes.
Labor Day is barreling done on us and I have no days off before we leave for Oregon.
ken
Saturday, August 19, 2017
Installed Planing Stop on The Portable Bench
Today I installed a planing stop and drilled the dog holes for the holdfasts. Those two are the last jobs other than installing the vise. ETA for the vise screw Is sometime Tuesday, until then I'm pretty much dead in the water.
Thinking I was going to be moving most of the bottom group of lumber in the wood storage pile to get to the wood for the vise chop. I had MsBubba standing by with gloves on her hands to help find the best board for the chop and maybe save my back and a trip to the E.R. After moving the scrap barrels out of the way what do I find but the perfect 8/4 hunk of Beech on top of the lumber. All I had to do was bend over and pick it up. As I have often said...."It is better to be lucky than good".
Here is the vise chop board in place:
Thinking I was going to be moving most of the bottom group of lumber in the wood storage pile to get to the wood for the vise chop. I had MsBubba standing by with gloves on her hands to help find the best board for the chop and maybe save my back and a trip to the E.R. After moving the scrap barrels out of the way what do I find but the perfect 8/4 hunk of Beech on top of the lumber. All I had to do was bend over and pick it up. As I have often said...."It is better to be lucky than good".
Here is the vise chop board in place:
Because the Fujiflim X-Pro1 battery is dead and the charger is in the Motorhome (still in the shop waiting for a part) the photos are coming from my iPhone. Making them look right in Photoshop is more work than I want to do. Sorry. Also the dog holes really are vertical in spite of their looking like they are drilled at 45 degrees in the photo. Anyway here is the bench top with the installed planing stop and a row of dog holes.
Looks like the bench may be finished in time for the Oregon trip.
ken
Friday, August 18, 2017
Outdoor Kitchen with Bar
The outdoor kitchen's bar is finished. Not a lot of time do do anything but post a couple of photographs....Gotta go to work in a couple:
MsBubba did a great job on the bar tile.
ken
Thursday, August 17, 2017
The Joy of eBay
The Motorhome is in the shop for it's annual fluid change and prep for the Oregon trip and of course the camera battery has died and the charger is, you guessed it, in the Motorhome. Long way around to no photos with this post.
I seldom buy off eBay because, let me count the reasons, burn rate, hidden defects, hidden defects, and burn rate. I've been looking to add to my firmer chisels, both bench and paring. Just because I do not buy I do look and a couple or three days ago there was a Weatherby 1/2" firmer with a paring blade that didn't look too bad. It was obvious the seller had done some grinding to clean the chisel up some but the big factor from the photos I could see the back of the iron was pit free.
I bet you can tell where this post is going. While grinding the gunk off the seller dubbed the back. Two hours of work on the back with my 120 grit Atomia and about 1/32" off the bevel and I have a usable chisel. I would have paid twice as much for the chisel if the seller had just removed the gunk and left the grinding to me.
BTW, if you have a Tormek you owe yourself the new model 77 jig. The Weatherby chisel is a perfect example why. Many older firmer chisels do not have parallel sides, the tip will be wider than the tang end. With the model 77 jig it is no problem, tighten and loosen a couple of screws until the blade is square and you are set. There are other improvements as well, damn fine jig.
ken
I seldom buy off eBay because, let me count the reasons, burn rate, hidden defects, hidden defects, and burn rate. I've been looking to add to my firmer chisels, both bench and paring. Just because I do not buy I do look and a couple or three days ago there was a Weatherby 1/2" firmer with a paring blade that didn't look too bad. It was obvious the seller had done some grinding to clean the chisel up some but the big factor from the photos I could see the back of the iron was pit free.
I bet you can tell where this post is going. While grinding the gunk off the seller dubbed the back. Two hours of work on the back with my 120 grit Atomia and about 1/32" off the bevel and I have a usable chisel. I would have paid twice as much for the chisel if the seller had just removed the gunk and left the grinding to me.
BTW, if you have a Tormek you owe yourself the new model 77 jig. The Weatherby chisel is a perfect example why. Many older firmer chisels do not have parallel sides, the tip will be wider than the tang end. With the model 77 jig it is no problem, tighten and loosen a couple of screws until the blade is square and you are set. There are other improvements as well, damn fine jig.
ken
Monday, August 14, 2017
No Joy On The Screw But The Firmer Chisels Arrived
First impression of the Narex firmer chisels is good, the chisels have nice balance, the backs, of at least the 26mm, are very slightly concave. Less than 3 minutes on the 400 Atomic and it was flat. The bevel and back honed up quickly on the med India and Hard Black Ark developing a nice burr quickly and got a beautiful 'polish' on one of the hard JNAT's.
They may be keepers,
ken
P.S. Ralph you shouldn't have but It looks like a keeper and thanks. I love tools, it is a sickness but there is nothing as satisfying as holding and using a old tool. The feel of the wood and the fit, how it can be perfect with nothing extra but everything needed to do it's job. The 'old ones' had much knowledge, it is a shame so much has been lost.
They may be keepers,
ken
P.S. Ralph you shouldn't have but It looks like a keeper and thanks. I love tools, it is a sickness but there is nothing as satisfying as holding and using a old tool. The feel of the wood and the fit, how it can be perfect with nothing extra but everything needed to do it's job. The 'old ones' had much knowledge, it is a shame so much has been lost.
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